Tri-Counties Genealogy & History by Joyce M. Tice
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 of Organizations & Military
National Indian Wars

 
 
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National Indian Wars
1817-1898

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This very rare Indian Wars Veteran marker is quite a find. While we are not proud of the wars themselves, we can still be glad that this marker has survived. The Indian Wars followed the Civil War and many former Civil War soldiers fought in them. Fortunately the cemetery caretakers recognize the rarity and vulnerability of this marker and have anchored it in concrete to keep it where it belongs. The marker has been painted a uniform brown with the original color showing through in spots. This is to prevent rusting. See note below on these markers. 
Veterans of National Indian Wars was a veterans' organization that no longer exists, obviously because the veterans of these wars died long ago. This marker is anchored in concrete for safety. The Flagholder above was found in New York State..
The more modern one at left was found in New Jersey as part of a cemetery memorial setting and not on the grave of an individual. This is a standard military marker and not the organizational marker as the one above. 
Patti Cassidy sent in this photo from Rhode Island.
It represents UIWV, United Indian War Veterans. My guess would be that this organization was a merger of several of the Veteran organizations mentioned in the letter below from Dick M. 

Note from guest:
Subj:  National Indian War Veterans
Date: 07/31/2000 4:37:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: rjm001@epix.net (Dick McCracken)
To: JoyceTice@aol.com (JoyceTice)

Joyce,

Re your photo of the National Indian War Veterans.  National Indian War Veterans was a veterans organization, like the American Legion, which no
longer exists.

The other Indian Wars flagholder on this page is similar one of two or three standard designs furnished by government for marking graves.  See
<http://webtext.library.yale.edu/sgml2html/beinecke.bates.sgm.html>

Series II, Godfrey Correspondence (Boxes 4-7), contains letters to Godfrey and transcripts, made by Bates, of letters by Godfrey. Official army communications and letters from colleagues dominate the files for the 1870s and 1880s. By 1907, when Godfrey retired, his correspondence with old comrades focuses on military associations such as the Order of the Indian Wars, the Military Order of the Loyal Legion of the United States, and the National Indian War Veterans. The letters of Charles Braden, Lewis M. Haupt, Henry Metcalfe, W. J. Roe, and E. H. Ruffner fall into this category. Many of Godfrey's correspondents were important figures in the nineteenth-century cavalry and authorities on Indian expeditions. Bates, who gained possession of Godfrey's letters, annotated many regarding Indian battles. Godfrey himself was an authority on the subject and responded to inquiries from W. M. Camp, George Bird Grinnell, and W. J. Ghent.


Hello Joyce, (May 2006)

I came across your web site while attempting to identify a flag holder I saw at the  (cemetery name removed for security of the flagholder) Benton County, Oregon. I have not seen another flag holder like this. I have concluded that it commemorates veterans of the Oregon and Washington Indian Wars. This marker is on the grave of James Barclay who served in the Yakima War of 1855.

Anyway, I thought you would like to see it and please let me know if you have any other information.

Randy Fletcher
Eugene, Oregon

November 2007
Joyce,
            I found one of them today….I have visited literally hundreds of IWV graves and had never seen one…I did a google “images” and found your site… I was not surprised to find they are very rare. The man in this grave was what was known as a “Custer Avenger”…meaning he joined the 7th Cavalry in the fall of 1876 AFTER the battle of the Little Big Horn.  Avenger was a tag used by the veterans of the regiment…Fred discharged in 1881 at Ft. Meade, Dakota Territory and moved to Lead City, DT where he opened a bakery. He was great friends with Charlie Windolph a veteran of the Custer battle and Medal of Honor winner for that engagement. Windolph was the last surviving U.S. soldier who fought in that famous battle, dying in Lead, SD in 1950… Windolph had the distinction of fighting a foe that used bows and arrows and living long enough to see the atomic bomb used.   You mention not being proud of the Indian Wars…no war is good.  If you would like to use either attached photo you are very welcome.

Rocky L. Boyd
Rapid City, SD

PS you are the one who taught me about their value, I assume you will not mention the location in the [name removed for security] Cemetery and I will mention the value to the caretaker.


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