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Commemorative Plaques & Flagholders of Military and Organizations as Photographed by Joyce M. Tice T.C.C. Troy Citizen Corps
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T.C.C. 6 N. G. |
Cummings who died 1928. There were no tombstones for any Wilbers in the vicinity, so that may be a chapter name, |
Date: 08/13/2000 2:43:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: jrwhite@icomnet.com (J Russell White)
To: JoyceTice@aol.com
Joyce,
The TCC marker does appear to be of military background. The bed roll on top of a backpack and the crossed rifles. But the date of death for the one (1900) is well before WW I, which is what I was thinking about. In the message about S of V it mentions NG, so I am assuming that they have used that term back then - which could reflect National Guard. I'll be checking further on that.
Russ
Subj: TCC flagholder
Date: 5/2/2002 1:21:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: thewadd@bestweb.net (John E. LaBarre)
To: JoyceTice@aol.com
This would be for the Troy Citizen Corps. Also known as the
6th Separate Company. It became part of the 2nd Regiment Infantry of the New
York
National Guard sometime in the mid teens.
John LaBarre
Subj: Troy marker
Date: 07/24/2003 7:43:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: bbennett@igc.com
To: JoyceTice@aol.com
Hi Joyce
It appears that the e-mail I tried to send yesterday
crashed. I have a cast iron plaque that my brother and I pulled out of a
Watervliet scrap yard around 1968-'70 along with the rusted metal remains of a
Smiths Civil War carbine. The rifle although rare was fairly easy to identify.
Until now the plaque was a mystery. The crossed rifles on this plaque are
rolling block actions, 1867~'73 or so. I don't think that the army officially
adopted this type of rifle although the navy bought some as well as foreign
governments. Maybe it was the arm of choice for the NY guard as well since they
were produced in Ilion NY..
Anyway the plaque shows traces of black or blue paint on
the field and gold or bronze on the lettering and circles. The belt buckle
detail is different from the one that you picture which looks like it is made of
bronze. The rifles in your picture also look earlier. On the back side is a cast
in dovetail slot near the top edge presumably for mounting on a stake or hook of
some sort. It has hung from a hook in this slot in my parents basement for
decades now. The internet search on the Latin "Illium Fuit Troja Est." turned up
2 other hits which indicate that this was the motto of the city of Troy at some
point ( Illium was, Troy is). I hope this is of some interest to you. Thanks for
the interesting web site.
Bill Bennett
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